The following is a guest post by Michael from CreditCardForum, a message board and blog for discussion of the worst and best credit cards.
Cash back credit cards and pizza ordering are two drastically different things, but they do have one thing in common… if done correctly, each has the potential to save you money on food. But if done the wrong way, you are going to get ripped off big time!
First, let’s talk about pizzas…
For some reason, most people are quick to criticize ordering out food as a waste of money. They say it’s cheaper to make it yourself at home. Usually that’s true, but when it comes to pizza, that is rarely the case.
A few years ago I was dead broke and tried every trick in the book to pinch pennies. Pizza was something I just couldn’t give up, so I was determined to find the cheapest way to get it. For the first few months, I experimented with the do-it-yourself mentality by making pizzas from scratch. I would buy all the ingredients; flour, yeast, sauce, cheese, oil, and sometimes I would splurge on toppings. I would pick these ingredients up either on sale or I would hit up Costco and buy them in bulk.
Much to my surprise, I discovered it was actually quite expensive to make them yourself! When making a large pizza, it would usually take around a pound of shredded mozzarella (sounds like a lot but it melts down to be very little). Nowadays the small bags are often only 6 ounces and even when they’re on sale 2/$5 or 2/$6, you’re still only getting a total 12 ounces. Buying big bags usually ended up costing more per ounce because they were never on sale. Then add in the flour, yeast, tomato sauce, olive oil (or soybean to be cheap), and a topping or two, and it really adds up! Plus, my gas bill was higher for using the oven so much.
Conclusion? Making pizza for yourself is not only too expensive, but it’s also very time consuming… especially the part where you have to wait for the dough to rise!
Ordering out pizza is the way to save money…
If done correctly, ordering out pizza can save you a lot of money! Here are a few ideas to do it on the cheap:
(1) $5 large pizzas: You get a 1-topping for $5 plus sales tax. Little Caesars is really who’s responsible for this trend; by changing their business approach to this model they have also forced competitors to offer similar deals (i.e. Dominos 5-5-5 deal). Trust me, it would be pretty hard to make something this filling for this price at home.
(2) Multi-pizza deals: Even if you’re just a bachelor, buying several at once may be the way to go if the price per pie is a lot cheaper. What I would do is eat one and freeze the others in big Ziploc bags.
(3) Coupon deals: So if you’re not that frugal and want to splurge on a specialty with a bunch of toppings, just make sure there’s a good coupon for it.
So what’s the wrong way to do it? Well at most chains, it’s usually a big ripoff to order at menu price. Without a deal or coupon, you are getting hosed… especially if you get a lot of toppings.
The other wrong way to do it is not tipping the delivery guy (like Jeff!) generously. Remember just like waiters, drivers are dependent on tips to make their money. Not to mention, they are saving you the time and expense of driving to get it yourself. If you can’t afford to tip fairly or are too cheap, then you should not be getting delivery.
Now let’s talk about cash back credit cards…
Just like ordering out pizza can save money on eating, so can cash back credit cards to a lesser degree. But you’re also going to get ripped off big time if you don’t do it right.
Some of the best cash back credit cards on the market give a 5% rebate at grocery stores. For example, the American Express Blue card does, but the catch is you don’t start earning that until after your total spending reaches at least $6,500 in a calendar year. Meanwhile some cards like Citi Dividend and Chase Freedom used to offer 5% all year long at grocery stores, but they have since watered down their reward programs (in my Chase Freedom card review and Discover More card review I talk about how they only include grocery stores 3 months out of the year). So these cards may not give much, but they still can save a few bucks on groceries if used correctly.
But for some it’s best to avoid these credit cards altogether!
Even the best cash back credit cards are a bad choice for many consumers. Here’s why:
(1) Carrying a balance – If having one of these cards is going to lead to you carrying a balance, then you should avoid them, plain and simple. In general, reward cards have outrageously high interest rates. So carrying a balance just one month can be enough to easily wipe out any rebate you may have earned on groceries.
(2) Spending more than normal – For some, the idea of getting a rebate leads to spending more than they normally would. So instead of saving money, they are actually wasting money! Will having a grocery rebate credit card lead to you splurging on an item or brand you wouldn’t normally buy? If so, DO NOT USE THESE CARDS!
(3) Poor money management – The great thing about cash is it forces us to live within our means. Instead of spending “invisible money” with credit cards, we have tangible limits on how much we can spend. Cash back credit cards just don’t make sense unless they are used with extreme discipline… and that means keeping track of exactly how much you’re spending and on what. If you can’t or think you will have problems doing that with a credit card, then it would be best to avoid using one.
Conclusion?
When done properly, eating pizza can save a lot of money on your food budget and cash back credit cards can save a little too. However if you don’t approach each the right way, you are going to end up wasting money instead of saving it!


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As you said, when used properly, reward cards can help you earn money. Like with most other beneficial things, they can be detrimental if you lack discipline!
@KNS you said it perfectly. Discipline is the name of the game. I have the discipline to use credit card correctly now, but I’m still not going there…
The only thing in common with the two is that you can conceivable throw both like a ninja star!
@FS very good point, ninja stars are an important part of any debt elimination program. The really big difference is that I’d love to have a pizza slice thrown at me
Home pizza can cost less in the long run due to reduced medical bills
…. Seriously though you are dead right about the cheese, it can get pricey! The rest is cheap though and I enjoy making it myself so it’s a hobby too.
I decided not to ever use credit cards again but I can see the advantages if you never stray away from paying the balance every month.
@Forest haha, love the medical bill reference. Cheese is always the most expensive part of the pizza. Our cheese bills at the pizza joint were HUGE!!
I find the same thing happens when I make burritos at home. They are oh so tasty, but after you buy all the ingredients, you’ve spent more than you would have for a delicious Chipotle or Qdoba burrito!
@CNC I’ve never thought about the burrito angle before. I’m getting hungry just reading this comment at 3:00am, I think Taco Bell is still open
I’ve never been to a Chipotle or Qdoba before, we have them both here in MI, maybe after I’m outta debt I’ll swing by one..
In the past, my husband used a premix dough for our pizza and it probably ended up costing us close to what a $5.00 Little Cesar’s pizza cost. However, we were able to put on additional toppings for extra flavor. But, I see your point with buying all the ingredients separately.
As for those cash back rebate cards, I do think some people are more inclined to spend more to meet that rebate. Using them for a normal purchase is just fine if you intend to pay if off right away, it’s when people beyond their means which is the problem.
@Little House, I’d personally rather eat dirt than Little Ceasars pizza, but I understand why people like it – the price. I make my own pie all the time, I can get the price down to $4 per large pizza. That’s making the dough from scratch too. That damn cheese is the problem.
We buy pizza using coupons and ultimately paying with our Citi Forward Visa and get 5% cash back at restaurants. If we want Digiorno instead, we use our Discover More card Sept-Dec to get 5% back on groceries or our PenFed Visa to get 2% back on groceries year round.
@BFS Very nice to see someone doing this. Playing the cash back game can sure be fun at times (or so I hear
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I use to be against the rewards programs but recently I’ve had a change of heart. I don’t use credit cards but my debt cards have a rewards program and I’ve been able to earn a free airline tick to Dallas and cashback.
As for pizza it’s all about the topping. It’s been cheaper for me to make them myself but I must admit I include expense also with my time and if I have other things to do I’ll just buy the pizza.
Food is the most expensive necessities of all people in the whole world. Sometimes it is more economical if you use to cook our own food rather from buying every meal, depending on how you buy for the ingredients. It is as well the same in using our credit card, if you intend to buy expensive ingredients for a pizza the more we waste our money. However, a great plain cheese, pizza sauce and salami will do. Having cash back or reward earning credit card does not mean also that we have to over spend to avail the cash back.
I definitely agree that rewards credit cards are not a good option for everyone. Consumers should choose a credit card to meet a particular need and not just apply for one because they want rewards. Specifically, a consumer should get a credit card to accomplish one of three strategic goals: improving credit OR lowering the cost of debt OR maximizing the value of rewards. As you pointed out, rewards are only a good option if you plan on paying your balance in full each month â?? theyâ??re worthless if you’re paying a large amount in interest each month.
@Credit Card Hub,
Too bad not everyone has the discipline to pull it off though.